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    Talking First timer Mongering in Chang Ping, Dongguan, China

    I will have the opportunity to visit Chang Ping in Dongguan coming from Guangzhou.

    After researching the monger scene in Guangzhou, here are my notes.

    Hotels:
    Clipper
    Swan Lake
    Miraton
    Hui hua
    King Long
    Li Hao

    KTVs:
    Virgin KTV is located on the 2nd floor inside the Virgin hotel two floors below the famous Virgin Sauna. No flower show. 2-5-8 Some girls will strip to panties for an extra 100, in which case the price becomes 3-6-9.

    Miraton: 2-5-8

    Mayflower: flower show at 6:00-6:30. 2-5-8

    FuHao (a.k.a. Plutocrat Hotel) is not located in the Miraton or Swan Lake Area. It is located across the sewage river away from the Lion Hotel. The easiest way to get there is just hop on a taxi and tell them to take you to Fu Hao KTV which is behind the Fu Hao Jiu Dian. 20 new VIP/member rooms. They have a flower show starting at 6:30 on weekends (Friday & Saturday) and 6:45pm on weeknights. The have anywhere from 200 - 300 girls. The girls are divided in 3 categories: White/Light Blue tag girls will strip in the room and is available for after KTV activities; Dark Blue tag girls will not strip in the room but is available for after KTV activities; and the Red tag girls will not strip and is not available for after KTV activities. Pricing is 2-5-8 except for the White/Light Blue girls stripping for about 15-30 minutes for an additional 100RMB. 2-5-8 (+1)

    California Red 2-5-8

    Euro Asia - 2-5-8 for the white dressed gals all covered up, 3-6-9 for the white dressed but bare mid-rift ones as well as the purple dressed ones, models are 5-10-15, girls in red dresses are 5-15-20

    JiaYi flower show. 2-5-8

    Hui Hua ?-?-?

    Manhattan:flower show. It has been reported that girls now remove their underwear for the evening after they have been selected? Also, they now have little games at around 9:30. 2-5-8

    Penninsula: 2-5-8

    Swan Lake: 2-5-8. Girls double as KTV and BBS girls.

    HuiMei - alot of new talent. 2-5-8

    Crown Prince... expensive place with 2-5-8 and 3-6-9 expect min 500/head with 3+ people. more if less than 3. also it is a 10 minute cab ride (20-30 rmb)

    Galaxy KTV ( Walter Hotel),

    Sheraton Dongguan
    3-8-12

    Most of the KTV's the girls are 2-5-8 = 200 (sit with),500 (short time),800 (long time),usually also be the Model or A class gals which will have higher charges. could be 3-6-9 or 3-8-10, 5-15-20 =500 (sit with), 1500 (Short time) and 2,000 (Long time).

    BBS
    Jun Hui- "Official show up to work period" for the gals at the Jun hui is 3:30 to 5:00 pm ST ??? LT ???
    HuiMei - ST 150 LT 400
    YaLan, - ST 200 LT 500
    Night Market - ST 130 LT 350-400
    Swan Lake - ST 200 LT 500

    Saunas:
    Miraton’s Sauna

    Massage:
    Fu Hao

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    Trains from GZ - CP:
    East Train station Every 15 mins, Last train at 10:45pm.

    I am not really NOT into KTV's but more into Saunas and BBS, so if you know of any places I must visit please let me know. But it seems with all my reading on the forum it looks like CP is all about KTVs.

    Are there any freelancer bars or SW areas ?

    In addition to the monger scene does anyone recommend a good restaurant for some amazing food ? Is there any great shopping that would be unique only in Chang Ping ? Are there any tourist or places of interest ?

    What about candid photography ? Are there any good locations to shoot upskirts or down blouses ? What about candid photography in general ? Are there any laws or restrictions on what I can and cannot shoot ? Are there any great locations to shoot street photography of just amazing woman walking to and from work or school ?

    If anyone knows of a GFE who they would like to recommend please let me know. I am a gentleman.

    Are there any maps online I can download with all the places.

    Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my post and if you are able to answer any of my questions.




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    No bars, no mistresses, China officials warned


    Associated Press
    2009-11-14

    Chinese officials are being told to dump their mistresses, avoid hostess bars, and shun extravagances as part of the Communist party's efforts to clamp down on the corruption that is threatening its rule and sullying its reputation.
    The language of the new morality push, one of countless such campaigns informally under way, is surprisingly bold, often cutting through the bureaucratese to make a clear link between moral lassitude and corruption. One statistic trotted out at a recent speech to bureaucrats: 95 percent of officials investigated for corruption were found to be keeping mistresses.

    "It's just not possible to keep a mistress on your salary because maintaining this sort of extravagant lifestyle requires a large amount of cash money," Qi Peiwen, a party discipline enforcer, told officials in southern China.

    "So what do you do if you don't have the money? Naturally, you'll use the power at your disposal to go find some," Qi said, according to a transcript carried by state media.

    The message was reinforced in a series of speeches at party academies last month by Li Yuanchao. He runs the organization department that controls senior appointments.

    Morality drives date back long before the Communist Party seized power in 1949, but the current one seems to stem more from a recognition that rampant corruption threatens to undermine the party's authority and permanently warp the value system of this rapidly developing nation of 1.3 billion people.

    Meanwhile, a campaign against pornography, lewd content and advertising for sexual services has bolstered efforts to control potentially subversive content on the Internet.

    Authorities recently banned more than 1,400 erotic writings and 20 Web sites, including those that discussed one-night stands, wife-swapping, sexual abuse and violence that "disregarded common decency," according to the government's General Administration of Press and Publication.

    Without fixed definitions of what constitutes indecent material, the drive allows censors virtually unfettered authority to block material, including scads of blogs and personal networking sites such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and tumblr.

    Not everyone is so willing to comply, however. This year the government has had to drop a heavy-handed attempt to increase Internet censorship by ordering pornography filters to be installed on all computers. It provoked a litany of complaints including that it denied access to much material that could not reasonably be considered offensive.

    That climbdown is part of a wider trend in Chinese society _ the gradual decline in the party's ability to insert itself into citizens' personal affairs.

    Although it retains absolute political control, the 73 million-member party no longer wields total authority over access to jobs, housing and travel, and no longer requires government employees to seek their bosses' permission to marry.

    June Teufel Dreyer, a China expert at the University of Miami, thinks the morality drive might stem from "the idea that pleasure-loving people don't work as hard as they should."

    Chinese have toiled for 30 years to build their country's economic might, and "Doubtless the leadership has noticed that in other societies, the prosperity-creating generation is likely to be succeeded by a frivolous generation," Dreyer said.

    In one prominent example, Chen Liangyu, a Politburo member and former Shanghai party boss became the most powerful official to fall in recent years. He was accused of being a greedy lothario who indulged his sexual urges with multiple girlfriends. The focus on Chen's alleged indecency was seen as an attempt to weaken support for him among other officials whose careers he had nurtured.

    During the morality campaign, party officials could receive demerits on their character assessments if found patronizing hostess bars, where young women accompany men in drinking, singing, and often much more, said Li, the organization department chief.

    The campaign coincides with the sentencing of 16 high-ranking officials this year, four times more than last year.

    In the end, however, the campaign's effectiveness may be fleeting, largely because it could expose much more corruption than the party had bargained for.

    Dreyer said officials and others are likely to initially offer minimal compliance and that the campaign will then lose steam.

    "Then, gradually, the old patterns will reassert themselves," she said.





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    Prostitution In China


    Prostitution is illegal but practiced openly. Prostitutes work out of five-star hotels, karaokes, entertainment centers, dance halls, boxing clubs, beauty parlors, hairdressers, barbershops, saunas, bathhouses, massage parlors, nightclubs and on the streets. Prostitutes operate openly in almost every major hotel in China. In one survey, 10 percent of sexually-active men admitted having paid for sex with a prostitute. Single foreign men often receive phone calls from prostitutes in their hotel rooms.

    The sex industry is growing rapidly. Even small cities have their own entertainment districts. Estimates of the numbers of prostitutes in China range from 3 million according to officials estimates by the government to 10 million by the U.S. State Department to 20 million by one Chinese economist. By one count there around 1 million full-time prostitutes in China and perhaps 8 to 10 million more that sometimes accept money and gifts for sex. One marker of the booming sex industry in Shenzhen—both in terms of prostitutes and misstresses—is the high number of children born out-of-wedlock.

    Prostitutes work at all levels of society from the grandest hotels to the poorest neighborhoods and lowliest villages. Prostitutes with beepers and mobile phones openly solicit sex at truck stops on the main highways. Movie houses have girls who charge $12 for petting and more for after movie entertainment. The beaches on Hainan have "swimming escorts" and the economic free-zones near Hong Kong have "concubine villages."

    Prostitutes from northern China earn $25 a trick working out of the backroom of beauty parlors near the Burmese border in Yunnan. In Shenzhen you can dance three songs and “touch me anywhere you want” for $1.20 or have a female factory worker visit your hotel room for $25. In the Golden Star neighborhood of Kunming the girls walk the streets and patronize men that cruise by in taxis. The girls usually charge around $20.

    Rise in Prostitution

    Prostitutes used to be found mostly in well known bars and karaokes in the major cities. Now they are found everywhere: on university campuses, in residential neighborhoods and even at Wal-art stores in almost every town in every province Customers are often secured through cell phone and Internet services.

    These days there are so many prostitutes that an oversupply has forced prices down. Workers that earned $30 a trick in 2005, could only make $20 in 2006 and were earning only $13 a trick in 2007. There are some prostitutes that are so desperate they service scores of migrant workers for $1 a piece under bridges and overpasses.

    One 22-year-old prostitute told the Washington Post, “Though the price has gone down, the number of customers is up. I used to receive two visitors before, and now I have to do three to four a day. My income is the same. I just have to work a little harder.”

    The rise in prostitution is more a manifestation of a lack of well-paying jobs than a loss morality. Many prostitutes send a large portion of their income to their families and to their hometowns. One prostitute who worked in a textile factory and as a dishwater in a hotel before turning tricks told the Washington Post, “There was a karaoke parlor in the hotel.. .And all the girls didn’t have to work at all. Yet they made big money. I worked all day and made 400 yuan [$53] a month. it’s because of money that I became ‘bad,’ and joined the business.”

    Prostitutes are called "xiaohie," or “miss.” In Beijing there are sometimes called "chicken girls." In parts of southern China they are known as "cows." Popular brothels often shuffle in new girls every week to attract repeat business. Many prostitutes are migrants from rural areas to the cities. Many willingly chose to work as prostitutes for $50 per trick rather than work for $50 a month in a factory.

    A study of the sex industry in rural China found “ a lot of young girls want to get rich so badly and want to make use of their beauty before it slips away. They consider working hard a waste of time and feel their looks are a waste if they don’t take advantage of them immediately.”

    In industrial towns many of the prostitutes, hostess and dance hall girls are women who have been laid off from factory jobs. A 20-year-old women in Shenzhen who works out of a back-alley. two-room massage parlor and has sex with four or five men a day told the New York Times she took up prostitution after she lost her factory job and was unable to get a new job unless she paid a bribe she couldn’t afford because she lost her identity card. “I was really terrified at first, and I was really embarrassed and didn’t even know how to use a condom. I didn’t have any choice, though. Little by little you get used to it.”

    One prostitute told Time, “I’m always a little scared. Sometimes men beat me up or they’ll refuse to pay after we have sex.” The goal that many prostitutes have is find a sugar daddy and get off the street and become a concubine.

    Sometimes Chinese girls don’t like foreigners. One American man told Theroux that a Chinese pimp had told him, Americans "are too big in their penis. The girl is Chinese. She is very small. It will hurt her too much."

    Women Willingly Seeking Work as Prostitutes

    An increasing number of young women in Yunnan Province are willingly going to Thailand and Malaysia to work as prostitutes or are being ordered by their families to work in brothels in these countries because the money is good. Girls from the Dai minority are particularly sought after in Thailand because they are regarded as beautiful and their language is similar to Thai.

    One 20-year-old woman in the Mekong River village of Langle told the New York Times, “If you can’t go to Thailand and you are a young woman here, what can you do? You plant and you harvest. But in Thailand and Malaysia I heard it was pretty easy to earn money so I went....All the girls would like to go, but some have to take care of their parents.”

    Some do quite well and this is often reflected by the nice homes—with satellite television, air conditioning, generators and tile designs—owned by their parents. Some families with several daughters live in chateau-like homes with chandeliers, leather-covered sofas, golden Buddhist altars and fancy home entertainment centers.

    Prostitutes, Barber Shops and Karaokes

    Many brothels are fronted by saunas or karaoke bars and many massage parlors are located in barber shops or beauty salons. A reporter for the Washington Post walked by a beauty salon and was told by a tout, "Hey, foreigners. I've got the best you can imagine—virgins, experienced pros, cheap and they are ready for you. Come try one." Pimps outside barber shops boast that their girls are cheap, beautiful and da pao ("set off a bang"). The usual charge is around $25.

    Prostitution and karaoke often go hand and hand. By one count there are over a thousand karaokes in the Guangzhou-Shenzen area that offer the sexual service of 300,000 women, most of them migrants from Sichuan. The Enjoy Business Club karaoke parlors in Shenzhen have singing rooms in the downstairs rooms and sex upstairs in private rooms.

    Prostitutes work places that cater to all kinds of clients: businessmen, foreigners, professionals. The owner of one massage parlor told the Washington Post he makes about $2,000 a month and is supported by local officials who take a cut of his profits.

    If love hotels or back rooms of a karaoke are not available there is always the local park. One man asked Theroux if he wanted a girl and then told him "I can get you a very dark and private corner in the park, so you can be alone with her." Theorux said he was told about one brothel run by public security police where "customers can feel safe that they won't be raided."

    Freelance prostitutes, who work out of beauty parlors, often meet different clients at different places, taking calls from different salon managers on their cell phones. Pimps sometimes solicit foreign customers in the sock department of Wal-Mart in Shenzhen, at first asking for $150 a night for girls displayed on their cell phones and then dropping the price to $80 a night.
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    Hostess Bars and Three-Accompany Girls

    In China, there are many hostess bars, places where young ladies entertain, chat up, flatter and pander to male customers by lighting their cigarettes and pouring their drinks. The women generally don't have sex with the male customers. Hostesses are generally prohibited by their employees from dating their customers after they get off work.

    Women who work at nightclubs, hostess bars and karaokes are often called "san pei xiaojie" (literally "three accompaniment girls," meaning drinking, singing and dancing). They “accompany” men as they drink, dance and sing karaoke. Although many limit themselves to serving drinks, singing and dancing others will do more if the price is right.

    Describing the Golden Age Mistress Bar in Shanghai George Wehrfritz wrote: "hostesses in white satin dresses sit and drink with the clientele, toasts radiate with mildly risqué pre-revolution showgirl revues...a dance troupe wearing bustiers and exotic shrubbery wiggled to a pair of disco songs extolling the virtues of oral sex."

    According to survey there are 100,000 san pei girls in the city of Shenyang alone. Even if only a small number of them are actually prostitutes, they add up to a large number.

    Penalties for Prostitution

    The penalties for engaging in prostitution are generally pretty light, with those getting caught generally getting a few months in jail and fines at worst. Instead of closing down known brothels officers with the Public Security Bureau prefer to crndone off the neighborhood where prostitutes live and issue fines for people with no residence permits. Most can get off by paying a bribe to a policeman or official.

    In Shenyang in Liaoning province and Puian in Fujian province prostitution is not only tolerated but even encouraged by officials who tax the san pei girls at a rate of between 100 yuan and 300 yuan a month. One pimp told the New York Times, "The police here are all my friends." He then he explained that he is former policemen himself.

    Occasionally the penalties can be quite harsh. In Foshan, a town outside Shenzhen, a man was sentenced to death and his sister was given life in prison for running a prostitution ring, which had only been in operation for three months and had netted only $1,000. It is widely believed the brother and sister received such severe penalties because they were migrants and they presented a threat to local businesses. In Beijing, a madam who was charged with pimping "more than a dozen" prostitutes out of a hotel, bath house and restaurant she partly owned was sentenced to death. She appears to have been unluckily picked out to make an example of.

    Sex Tourism

    Sex tourism is a big business in China. Almost every five-star hotel has a group of women hanging around that offer a variety of services for male travelers. Many hotels, including state-owned ones, employ the prostitutes themselves.

    A Japanese restaurant in Kunming, Yunnan Province used to serves sushi and sashimi on the bodies of scantily clothed women. Young attractive grills were hired for the job. They reportedly showed up for 30 minutes and had their body chilled in an ice room before lying on a table to have food served on them.

    In September 2003, Japan got a lot of bad press when reports emerged of 380 Japanese businessmen with a construction company running around with 400 Chinese prostitutes in hotel in Zhuhai, China. One of the prostitutes told the Washington Post she was with three of four Japanese men. “They had a big party. On my floor, at least, they had girls in every room.”

    The Japanese businessmen arranged for prostitutes through the hotel’s Japanese marketing department, paying $145 for each woman according to the Beijing Youth Daily. The incident drew more publicity than it otherwise might of because it occurred on the anniversary of the beginning of the Japanese occupation of Manchuria in 1931. The hotel was closed temporarily. Several hotel workers were arrested and forced to take “emergency study sessions.” The Japanese government conducted an investigation.

    Foreigners caught hiring prostitutes are usually fined and released.

    Chinese Prostitutes Outside China


    Many of the prostitutes who work in Hong Kong are women from the mainland. In some cases they earn more in a day of working the streets in Hong Kong than they can working at legitimate jobs in China for a year. Chinese characters outside blue hotels in Hong Kong advertise "new girls from the north" and "one room, one phoenix" ( a prostitute without a pimp).

    Many of the mainland prostitutes in Hong Kong are recruited by gangsters and brought in with Chinese tour groups. Often they only have three weeks until their visa expires, and work under local pimps. Many cruise the streets in working class neighborhoods of Kowloon. Sometimes there are so many of them scuffles break out over customers. The competition has lowered the price from about $65 to $35 per trick and made paid sex more accessible to working class Hong Kong residents and even teenage boys.
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